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The Big EA BFV Cheat Thread [Page 1-12

This is the ongoing EA cheating discussion on Battlefield V 

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DICA and EA Games Fail at Cheating

Wall hacks and no recoil
  • I was in a frontlines game yesterday and from the start of the game ALL the enemy players was showing on the minimap for everyone on my team.. It seemd very suspect, and a guy was laughing and seemed like he was the one who made it this way.. I never call out hacks, and rearly see anyone hacking, maby 10 maximum in 800 hours of BF1.. but this is not a good start...
  • Wall hacks and no recoil

    Noooooo reallly? In a PC game? After a Beta? Impossible!

    Like come on man, EVERY MP shooter has cheaters on it. The low life scum that makes them have nothing better to do so they work day and night to make it work.

  • Zefar wrote: »

    Noooooo reallly? In a PC game? After a Beta? Impossible!

    Like come on man, EVERY MP shooter has cheaters on it. The low life scum that makes them have nothing better to do so they work day and night to make it work.

    Which it really amazes me that everyone still buys these games, knowing that there will be a large amount of cheaters in them... Pretty sad really.
  • Are we sure exactly who the devs of these cheats are?
  • STOPchris wrote: »

    Which it really amazes me that everyone still buys these games, knowing that there will be a large amount of cheaters in them... Pretty sad really.

    Not everyone has the same experience.

    I'm still yet to see a blatant cheater in over 40 hours of game time.
  • max0mario
    28 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited November 2018
    Not everyone has the same experience
    I'm still yet to see a blatant cheater in over 40 hours of game time.

    How can it be, maybe there are exclusive servers just for you?) Or maybe...

    ...you a super pro gamer with K/D 2.68
    :smiley:
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  • CaptHotah
    947 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited November 2018
    In 30 hours so far ive seen 2 obvous hackers. 1 was one shoting everyone with the P08 pistol the other went like 30-2 at lvl 6, 4 rounds in a row on tdm.
    That second guy MIGHT not have been a cheater but i refuse to belive that someone who barely installed the game was **** everyone on the server like that....
  • max0mario
    28 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited November 2018
    CaptHotah wrote: »
    In 30 hours so far ive seen 2 obvous hackers. 1 was one shoting everyone with the P08 pistol the other went like 30-2 at lvl 6, 4 rounds in a row on tdm.
    That second guy MIGHT not have been a cheater but i refuse to belive that someone who barely installed the game was **** everyone on the server like that....

    To know the true situation I try something "clever" and realize there are 80% in every server keep you in aim all the time, how can it be, some kind of magic maybe :wink:

    In bf1 there were maybe 20% clever guys, here we have a 80%, how can it be invisible? Its marasmatic situation, and result must be an 1 month hwid ban first time, in second time it must be forever ban! Or it will be a last bf on PC, I think!
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  • max0mario
    28 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited November 2018
    If everyone uses wallhack, there will be no 100-2 KD, they in the same conditions, but those who play fair is like a fat sheeps, can do nothing) Aimbot have different setting and variants, it can be used like assistant or 5 shots 2 hit for conspiracy. There not a big secret)
    * This is not a propaganda of using cheat, dont use it, its shame to use it!)
  • I have seen a couple, I reported one yesterday, he was level 8 with KD 112/2 lol
  • STOPchris wrote: »
    Which it really amazes me that everyone still buys these games, knowing that there will be a large amount of cheaters in them... Pretty sad really.

    Battlefield series have had less cheaters than most MP games what I've noticed and it is more rare to run into one. Which is why I keep buying and playing these games.
  • Agree. It's pathetic. No FF or anti-cheat system when BFV went live. You'd think there would be a system to catch these cheaters once it released world wide. It opened world wide alright, EA/DICE just pretty much handed cheaters a "Golden Ticket" to cheat since there's really no anti-cheat system in place. FairFight? What a joke.

    ESP/Aimbot/Wallhacks/No Recoil. Great game! And these affiliated gaming companies, reporters and gaming magazines rating BFV "9/10"...LOL, yea, maybe they should research the "inside" EA gaming community on multiplayer to really get a feel of how this game actually is instead of playing single player campaign, "War Stories".

    Think about it...spotting system/mechanics in this game is very underwhelming. I wouldn't be surprised if majority of the players are using ESP to compensate.
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  • I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently

    There are cheaters in every game where there is a multiplayer Currently ( and forever more ).

    This is no different than any other game to be fair.


    That said, If you do suspect users of cheating, You can report them through Origin.
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  • Al3xDaS0uL wrote: »
    I was in a frontlines game yesterday and from the start of the game ALL the enemy players was showing on the minimap for everyone on my team.. It seemd very suspect, and a guy was laughing and seemed like he was the one who made it this way.. I never call out hacks, and rearly see anyone hacking, maby 10 maximum in 800 hours of BF1.. but this is not a good start...

    Yes, it seems the spotting hack is back. Had a Domination game on Arras yesterday, where one assault was going from person to person. He wasn't very good at killing, I mostly won encounters against him. He did end up around 39-11, while I had 26-6 or so. The telltale sign was that he had 12k score, compared to my 6k. He was getting spot assists from all kills, otherwise the score is impossible in a short Dom round, particularly for assault.
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  • Just thinking if there is no Anti cheat system visible and EA/Dice not telling everyone we maybe being decepted that they may not have an anti-cheat system and relying solely on people reporting these to dice!
    in which case could be reported to the likes of Trading standards or similar to your area or is it something else more of a conspiracy
  • ESP Only cheats on google so sad. I hope dice do something. Because battle royale will die fast because of cheaters. Please add better anti cheat. Today on grand operations level 0 150 kills with esp and aimbot. I see one site selling esp only 10$ and full cheat for 25$.... People spend allot money to cheat wow crazy.
  • max0mario wrote: »

    How can it be, maybe there are exclusive servers just for you?) Or maybe...

    ...you a super pro gamer with K/D 2.68
    :smiley:

    I play in Oceania, maybe there's less there?

    What does my K/D have to do with anything? It's average, so what?
  • max0mario wrote: »

    To know the true situation I try something "clever" and realize there are 80% in every server keep you in aim all the time, how can it be, some kind of magic maybe :wink:

    In bf1 there were maybe 20% clever guys, here we have a 80%, how can it be invisible? Its marasmatic situation, and result must be an 1 month hwid ban first time, in second time it must be forever ban! Or it will be a last bf on PC, I think!

    I watched your video, and your 80% estimate is totally overblown. With your cheat showing aiming sight lines and threat estimation by color coding, it is easier to notice other cheaters, but the video did not have that many suspicious incidents. Whilst in 70 hours I've seen about ten cheaters, overall the matches seem quite clean and free of suspicious scores. I'm back to pulling MVPs at the usual rate, and KD is rising nicely. So if the majority really were wallhacking, they are even worse cheaters than you. And that's saying a lot.

  • So it’s obvious there are cheaters on the onset/during release and it has been so for many BF titles. Though it’s semi-rare to come across one, we’ve all seen the guy at the top of the scoreboard with triple digit kills to single digit deaths. Even Stodeh’s “#1 Snipah” best games are 45-5. What I think Dice/EA are doing is letting the cheaters exploit their hacks in the beginning so they can be identified, added to FairFight, and the accounts using them banned. It’s a way to identify the cheats and issue mass bans all at once instead of re-identifying each cheat each time one is used. This way all the hacks and accounts are identified at once and a massive ban wave is enacted before word gets out and cheaters/hackers stop using them in order to save their accounts. Remember in BF1 when FairFight was banning accounts almost every game? If I remember right they had identified and banned just about all the hacks before the first expansion even came out, denying the cheaters literally 75 - 80% of the content of the game.

  • I watched your video, and your 80% estimate is totally overblown. With your cheat showing aiming sight lines and threat estimation by color coding, it is easier to notice other cheaters, but the video did not have that many suspicious incidents. Whilst in 70 hours I've seen about ten cheaters, overall the matches seem quite clean and free of suspicious scores. I'm back to pulling MVPs at the usual rate, and KD is rising nicely. So if the majority really were wallhacking, they are even worse cheaters than you. And that's saying a lot.

    You are funny) Good luck!
  • So it’s obvious there are cheaters on the onset/during release and it has been so for many BF titles. Though it’s semi-rare to come across one, we’ve all seen the guy at the top of the scoreboard with triple digit kills to single digit deaths. Even Stodeh’s “#1 Snipah” best games are 45-5. What I think Dice/EA are doing is letting the cheaters exploit their hacks in the beginning so they can be identified, added to FairFight, and the accounts using them banned. It’s a way to identify the cheats and issue mass bans all at once instead of re-identifying each cheat each time one is used. This way all the hacks and accounts are identified at once and a massive ban wave is enacted before word gets out and cheaters/hackers stop using them in order to save their accounts. Remember in BF1 when FairFight was banning accounts almost every game? If I remember right they had identified and banned just about all the hacks before the first expansion even came out, denying the cheaters literally 75 - 80% of the content of the game.

    First I dont believe that there are that many cheats as of now. Alot of the kills in the game are somewhat strange even to veteran players. So it seems to have a lot to do with the game itself.
    Also alot of the top players, which I dont believe cheat like stodeh, ravic, ascendmetalslug all have nearly a hundred kills in some games.

    I recall myself raging about hackers the first days I played it as I got killed too much.
    Now I feel I have learnt the speed of the game, which is different to other BF games.
    Also the missing or changed spotting feature, and how enemies blend into the enviroment has a lot to say I think.

    But as many states there will always be cheaters.
    Still the worst iv seen was in BF4 using punkbuster.

    See u on the Battlefield.
  • ZeuZx
    71 posts Member BF3BF4
    edited November 2018
    117-1 and legit.

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  • ZeuZx wrote: »
    117-1 and legit.


    Thats not cheating, thats abusing the overpowered. Theres no good counter to planes. Those who want to try will have to waste time in a plane in order to end up also abusing it. Bring back AAs from bf3 and bf4 and infantry heat seekers and the plane only players would be complaining.

  • TwinGunsLLP
    151 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited November 2018
    LoL, nobody is talking about the broken bombers. Any scrub can get in a bomber and go 110-0.
  • These **** always come out at night too. I can play all day and not see a single cheater, but come night and there is at least one in every server.
  • TwinGunsLLP wrote: »
    LoL, nobody is talking about the broken bombers. Any scrub can get in a bomber and go 110-0.

    The point was just because someone gets an insane k/d doesn't mean hes cheating. In the bombers case, just an OP part of the game haha. And if any scrub could do it, you would see those scores in every round and I have yet to see anyone get higher than 60 kills in a match.
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  • Until I see that cheating is happening I'm not going to believe it is happening
 
  • CoD_Is_Number_1
    296 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited November 2018
    I've noticed some dubious players too.

    Perhaps if DICE didn't use the ridiculously easy to fool Fairfight and actually used a proper anti-cheat (perhaps even alongside Fairfight for the few times it does detect cheats), there wouldn't be such a plague going on right now.

    But am I reading this right - the game launched without any anti-cheat enabled? Surely DICE, who has been doing Battlefield online since 2002, wouldn't have screwed that up so badly???

    Edit: Looks like this still posted (didn't show up on my screen when I did it), and I've no idea how to delete it, hence the double post.
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  • this simple when ever you come across an all number account (ie 23244475860 ) they are Chinese main land QQ account which are throw away email accounts and are used to obtain cheat codes, tell me I am wrong ? I live in China and I am trying to raise awareness to this fact , even all my Chinese friends are fed up with these people giving them a bad reputation and spoiling their game play. True honest accounts have a nick name as per normal , EA really need to make a stand and implement ID, license , passport for in game purchase to put a final stop to this never ending issue by implementing database cheat ban system , none of this transferring you game over to a new account , but of course the $$ talks and everything else walks , so sad we waste so much time saying the same things .
    But i must say this so far the amount of blatant cheaters has been lower than average for a new release so for now something is working

    Good, that means they were dumb enough to either purchased the premium or the game itself at full price. Then get banned for cheating lol. I still have yet to see a cheater though so I just think its rival games posting nonsense about massive cheaters everywhere (not that cheats don't exist because they do). I'm willing to bet 99% of the time its the casual joe that has an accuracy of 5% thats dying over and over and cries out hacks.
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  • Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've come across some dubious players too.

    Perhaps if DICE didn't just use the absurdly easy to fool Fairfight and actually had a proper anti-cheat, perhaps even in combination with Fairfight, hacks wouldn't be so much of a problem.
    Agree. It's pathetic. No FF or anti-cheat system when BFV went live. You'd think there would be a system to catch these cheaters once it released world wide. It opened world wide alright, EA/DICE just pretty much handed cheaters a "Golden Ticket" to cheat since there's really no anti-cheat system in place. FairFight? What a joke.

    ESP/Aimbot/Wallhacks/No Recoil. Great game! And these affiliated gaming companies, reporters and gaming magazines rating BFV "9/10"...LOL, yea, maybe they should research the "inside" EA gaming community on multiplayer to really get a feel of how this game actually is instead of playing single player campaign, "War Stories".

    Think about it...spotting system/mechanics in this game is very underwhelming. I wouldn't be surprised if majority of the players are using ESP to compensate.

    Wait, even Fairfight isn't active yet? Surely DICE wouldn't have dropped the ball like that?
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  • This and team balance are the only two gripes that I have about Battlefield games. Each time a new Battlefield gets released, DICE has done nothing to fix either... Now DICE is completely going backwards with the cheating issue, it seems like they have been doing pretty close to nothing with their last couple of games.
  • Just had a guy on my team go 83-3 in a short TDM game. I hardly ever saw any enemy as he was just standing on a ledge and taking them out as soon as they appeared. I quit for the night. It's been hard to get back into this after a long layoff. Whatever happened to PB and being able to see what bans were being handed out?
  • unordinary score....such as 100k/2d,HS%,and accuracy. we can handle on custom server.
    actually could on BF4.so I don’t care about that.

    but wall-hack.....seriously.we can not notice it at a glance.
    so we need spot if want to play without doubt.

    DICE could not remove hacker any other BFs .
  • There definitely seems to be more cheaters in 5 than in 1 so far, feels like playing BF4 where dice/ea doesn’t seem to do much about it.
  • PauIoCosta
    312 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited November 2018
    It is almost impossible to play in Brazil, squad/clan whole using cheat. making 50/0 of doctor or 80/5 of suport, wallhack, aimbot...
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  • I've done some research, some online hunting, I found out that FairFight has a really big flaw in its design. FairFight uses screenshots to catch hackers in the act but paid hacks use what is called a "screenshot blocker" option which blocks FairFight from screenshotting a sus player to ban them, What this means is if people have hacks they can freely hack/cheat the game and won't get banned while this "screenshot blocker" is on. Another problem is some cheaters use "free hacks" from online cheating forams and then get banned. These cheaters usually go and make another origin account or buy an account with a fake email and then goes and buy a cheap illegal game key from a sus person to hack on the cheap. This is a huge problem for Dice and the community. EA should have the power to take legal action on cheating websites that promote cheats in EA games and people who sell illegal game codes of any EA game. All it took for me to figure this out was a few hours of reading and research.
  • Would like to share this in the thread: Battlefield V's Anti-Cheat Efforts .

    Our security teams at DICE and EA are fully committed, and already started taking measures to remove cheaters. This will be the case until Battlefield Community is happy with the results.

    I would also like to remind everyone that about our forum rules do not permit naming and shaming to avoid false accusations and to respect each others privacy.
  • EA_Lanna
    291 posts BF4BFHBF1
    edited November 2018
    Hey folks,

    I've reopened this thread after removing some recent posts breaking the BF Forum rules. As a Moderator, the rules are my thing so I'd like to help members post within them and avoid moderation as much as possible. With this in mind, as well as the topic of this thread and what @EA_Alexander mentioned, I'd ask people to please not share/link/detail/refer by name any cheats/hacks/exploits on the forum because as well intentioned as you may been, publicly posting that is not ok as the information will - unfortunately - be abused by others. Nobody wants that!

    We do have official channels in place specifically to receive those reports and follow-up with them internally. These channels are the best way to get the information to the right place such as:

    I'll also share a link to the Battlefield website where @Merson316 has shared an article on DICE's approach to cheating in Battlefield if you'd like to read more on that: "Keeping the Fight fair: Our Approach in Battlefield".
  • Al3xDaS0uL wrote: »
    I was in a frontlines game yesterday and from the start of the game ALL the enemy players was showing on the minimap for everyone on my team.. It seemd very suspect, and a guy was laughing and seemed like he was the one who made it this way.. I never call out hacks, and rearly see anyone hacking, maby 10 maximum in 800 hours of BF1.. but this is not a good start...


    This could be a bug. On one game my entire squad instantly appeared, before the game started, in a place BEHIND, our team spawn and were all killed and the out of bounds timer was faster than the deploy count.
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  • They made BFV even more hacker friendly than any other recent BF. Because there is no real spotting that stays on the person a sniper with hack (in particular) is almost invulnerable. Instantly kills almost everything and is very very hard to locate. This is probably why BFV is really Sniper Combat on so many maps. Twisted metal in particular springs to mind. This is a beautiful map but it was custom made for hackers. Whether ESP/Radar Tag/or out and out botting. It could not be more perfect. I also saw a video where a guy managed to make the on board Asus Sonic Radar show up in BFV. I can use it in Ark but here. OMG that would be every bit as good as ESP.
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  • BF3, BF4, BFH, BF1 and now BFV, do I need to point out other games from DICE/EA too ?

    The ACi team needs to be more aggressive towards cheaters and starting to use other extreme measures !
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  • STOPchris wrote: »

    This is also what I have been seeing a lot. They are REALLY obvious with it too. That is what amazes me, they are so obvious, but EA can't ban them? At least get the obvious cheaters out of the game EA!!!!!

    You mean like the leaderboards with the top scores over 10k per minute, with the leader at ONE MILLION per minute?
    https://tinyurl.com/y9577wne

    Anti-cheat efforts is of HIGH priority for us. We want the battlefield to be enjoyable and as fair as possible. With every release and update we improve our anti-cheat systems to mitigate against new and existing cheat programs, bots, etc. Battlefield V will have the latest and greatest, and we will continue to dedicate resources to improving throughout Tides of War.
  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited November 2018
    ZeuZx wrote: »
    The point was just because someone gets an insane k/d doesn't mean hes cheating. In the bombers case, just an OP part of the game haha. And if any scrub could do it, you would see those scores in every round and I have yet to see anyone get higher than 60 kills in a match.
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    How many more do you want to see?
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  • One of the major anticheat mechanisms up through BF4 was private servers. Real private servers, not the EA-only model that we moved to in BF1.

    There used to be a dedicated private community that took up the anticheat fight on the per-clan/per-server level. While not perfect, individual private community efforts went a VERY long way toward mitigating the effects of cheaters in the broader game community. You used to know where you could go to play where at least *someone* might listen to a reasonably-phrased cheat report.

    Now, with BF1/V, we have: (1) no private servers; (2) no real/meaningful independent stats resources; (3) no third-party or homegrown stats analysis tools; (4) no third-party or homegrown server management tools.

    The anticheat vacuum that was previously somewhat filled by private server administration is now left 100% in EA's hands, and it hasn't worked out. Now there's no refuge anywhere, and only "we take all your cheat reports seriously" platitudes.

    Just pointing this out. My opinions remain my own and aren't to be taken as representative of my own private gaming community.
  • I think the hacking is finally going to kill off Battlefield. It is a flawed gem but everyone has had bad experiences over the last few years because of this and they did nothing. Already seeing the complaints and anger trending.
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  • ECH0_MIRAGE wrote: »
    One of the major anticheat mechanisms up through BF4 was private servers. Real private servers, not the EA-only model that we moved to in BF1.

    There used to be a dedicated private community that took up the anticheat fight on the per-clan/per-server level. While not perfect, individual private community efforts went a VERY long way toward mitigating the effects of cheaters in the broader game community. You used to know where you could go to play where at least *someone* might listen to a reasonably-phrased cheat report.

    Now, with BF1/V, we have: (1) no private servers; (2) no real/meaningful independent stats resources; (3) no third-party or homegrown stats analysis tools; (4) no third-party or homegrown server management tools.

    The anticheat vacuum that was previously somewhat filled by private server administration is now left 100% in EA's hands, and it hasn't worked out. Now there's no refuge anywhere, and only "we take all your cheat reports seriously" platitudes.

    Just pointing this out. My opinions remain my own and aren't to be taken as representative of my own private gaming community.

    Well said. They killed Battlefield when they killed well run private servers. It has never regained the sense of community and social interest that it had then. So what did they do? Doubled down on the failure and released the awful GAP advert of a UI we suffer today.
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  • HiredRanger
    95 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited November 2018

    They actually sell them and make very good money with it. Dice/EA needs to sue the the biggest ones to atleast slow them down a bit. There will always be hacks but it shouldn't be so easy and the scumbags shouldn't get rich by selling them.

    Outside of jurisidiction. So they cant do that. One site I have been watching for almost a decade in various forms. It has been going forever and the brag has always been that if you control the timings (clocks) not sure how to interpret that, then there is nothing these companies can do about it. Then there are Chinese and Russian sites which are encouraged to undermine a major US company. The only thing you can do is understand or make it illegal and prosecute. These hack kiddies install a full on root kit onto their machine to install these hacks these days. They are literally botting their machine by choice, often against national and/or their own interests. The question is, why are they so tragic in the first place? I think many have no idea that they just gave up control of their entire PC and home network.
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    Outside of jurisidiction. So they cant do that. One site I have been watching for almost a decade in various forms. It has been going forever and the brag has always been that if you control the timings (clocks) not sure how to interpret that, then there is nothing these companies can do about it. Then there are Chinese and Russian sites which are encouraged to undermine a major US company. The only thing you can do is understand or make it illegal and prosecute. These hack kiddies install a full on root kit onto their machine to install these hacks these days. They are literally botting their machine by choice, often against national and/or their own interests. The question is, why are they so tragic in the first place? I think many have no idea that they just gave up control of their entire PC and home network.

    In Russia these are legit large corporations even. Just like any other tech firm. And that is a big problem. The industry has passed 100 billion yearly revenue If I remember correctly. I had a theory that EA at some time were in on it, through various companies they own. I don't really believe it though, but the thought returned when seeing what was going on in BFV.
  • I regret buying BFV very much.The method of reporting cheaters is too complicated. I need to remember the name of the cheater.And,Why EA can't learn Blizzard's anti-cheating?relying solely on player reporting?
  • ZeuZx
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    edited November 2018
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    How many more do you want to see?

    Cool so you encountered a hacker? You want a medal or something? I never said there wasn't cheaters/hackers, I simply said I have yet to see one in game. And just because hes a 113-10 doesn't mean hes a hacker, I posted a video of a bomber going 117-1. So unless you link a video of an obvious cheater that score really means nothing with the amount of crazy scores bombers can get right now.
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  • There are cheaters on nearly every server. The kd ratio is unreal. I see people going 20-1, 60-1 and it's obvious they're cheating.

    It seems like absolutely nothing is being done. I wish that if cheating were to happen, they get banned from using the online gaming system. Then if they want to play online, they have to re-purchase the game. That would deter people from actually cheating. Some people would still try cheating, but at least then there would be some financial reason for EA to ban cheaters.

    Right now, I am about to stop playing until some anti-cheat system comes out. It's sad how many people are cheating....and even if there are cheaters, it seems like there is no punishment.
  • Haven't seen a single cheater in all my hours in game.. barly any in battlefield 1 either... I think a lot of the blame in this game is the bad TTD (netcode issue)
  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Cool so you encountered a hacker? You want a medal or something? I never said there wasn't cheaters/hackers, I simply said I have yet to see one in game. And just because hes a 113-10 doesn't mean hes a hacker, I posted a video of a bomber going 117-1. So unless you link a video of an obvious cheater that score really means nothing with the amount of crazy scores bombers can get right now.

    I've played with Red enough to vouch for him in knowing when he has spotted a cheater. The scores that he posted aren't the most extreme, but about every third server I encounter has some really high kd ratios, like 63-2.

    Besides, questioning the one screenshot he posted doesn't negate that plethora of obvious hackers that are on the TDM and other non-vehicle servers.

    I also would like to see what the results of my reported cheaters are. There are systems in other games that show feedback to players and this is highly valuable. It shows people when they report if a player is or isn't a cheater. This helps the person realize that the person was or wasn't cheating or breaking the rules and prevents further false reports. Since we currently have zero idea if our reporting is of an actual cheater or not, I would venture to guess the people dealing with cheats are inundated with false reports.
  • EA_Lanna wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    I've reopened this thread after removing some recent posts breaking the BF Forum rules. As a Moderator, the rules are my thing so I'd like to help members post within them and avoid moderation as much as possible. With this in mind, as well as the topic of this thread and what @EA_Alexander mentioned, I'd ask people to please not share/link/detail/refer by name any cheats/hacks/exploits on the forum because as well intentioned as you may been, publicly posting that is not ok as the information will - unfortunately - be abused by others. Nobody wants that!

    We do have official channels in place specifically to receive those reports and follow-up with them internally. These channels are the best way to get the information to the right place such as:

    I'll also share a link to the Battlefield website where @Merson316 has shared an article on DICE's approach to cheating in Battlefield if you'd like to read more on that: "Keeping the Fight fair: Our Approach in Battlefield".

    EA_Lanna,

    thank you for your kind email. You warned me because I posted a link to a YT-Video showing a player cheating in a BETA MP Game of BF5. That's ok for me, I wasn't aware that this video could link to some hack sites (I don't know about even where to get them and I never would even pay money for that).

    I hope, that in the soon future you as EA/DICE will find a proper solution for your customers, who payed hard earned money for that game, awaiting a game with fair conditions for any player. PUBG was destroyed by chinese hackers. I really love the BF series, can't wait for the BattleRoyal-Mode, so please, do something, region lock may help.

    One thing: It is not my job to do your job (as EA, not you as EA_Lanna). I don't have the time to report cheaters, since it ins't very easy to do so. It takes estimated 5 min. to report one player, but you never will get any feedback. And even if, so what? I do not recive any benefits, in example like a headhunter.

    No, EA is the Master of Ceremony, they have to catch the bad guys at the gates any means! If I just imangine the chaos of millions reports a month, who has the time to check them all? That system is not useful.

    Regards from Germany (sorry for my english :) )
  • EA_Lanna wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    EA_Lanna wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    I've reopened this thread after removing some recent posts breaking the BF Forum rules. As a Moderator, the rules are my thing so I'd like to help members post within them and avoid moderation as much as possible. With this in mind, as well as the topic of this thread and what @EA_Alexander mentioned, I'd ask people to please not share/link/detail/refer by name any cheats/hacks/exploits on the forum because as well intentioned as you may been, publicly posting that is not ok as the information will - unfortunately - be abused by others. Nobody wants that!

    We do have official channels in place specifically to receive those reports and follow-up with them internally. These channels are the best way to get the information to the right place such as:

    I'll also share a link to the Battlefield website where @Merson316 has shared an article on DICE's approach to cheating in Battlefield if you'd like to read more on that: "Keeping the Fight fair: Our Approach in Battlefield".

    I have sent in videos to EA, with blatant hackers in them. I host those videos on streamable.com. Those videos track the number of views. Some of the videos that I have sent in to EA have had zero views.

    Can you comment on how that could be possible?
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  • I think most of the people cheating are using ESP. They seem to know you are coming all the time. Had a level 6 guy to 110-6 last night. Then they want us to go on the web and waist out time reporting these people. Just add a cheat button to the game. Also it is a joke there is no FF or anti cheat system. Why do they rush these games out. This is going to kill game.

    I think its multihack but for sure ESP. Now we have no proper spotting system ESP is 10x more powerful than ever before. Dice could not have made a game more perfect for hackers.
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  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Good, that means they were dumb enough to either purchased the premium or the game itself at full price. Then get banned for cheating lol. I still have yet to see a cheater though so I just think its rival games posting nonsense about massive cheaters everywhere (not that cheats don't exist because they do). I'm willing to bet 99% of the time its the casual joe that has an accuracy of 5% thats dying over and over and cries out hacks.

    Not good for the game. For every code they buy thay have a given metric for those they make sure never come back and they plant a seed. Those people may never buy a game from this particular US company again. That is the point. It cost them next to nothing for the harm that they may do.
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  • There are cheaters in every game where there is a multiplayer Currently ( and forever more ).

    This is no different than any other game to be fair.


    That said, If you do suspect users of cheating, You can report them through Origin.

    I disagree. EA are a prime target for Russian and Chinese hackers as well as those elsewhere that just know that this is EA's release of the year. So from their point of view, it is worth a lot of effect to target, research and produce the right product. They have made no secret of that in online forums. It is the one they all want to hit so it is disproportionately targetted and players suffer for that.
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  • I can hand on heart say I haven't seen a single overt cheater yet.
    Not saying they are not there in some form but none of the Insta headshot from 800 yards with the a pistol types.
  • Al3xDaS0uL wrote: »
    Haven't seen a single cheater in all my hours in game.. barly any in battlefield 1 either... I think a lot of the blame in this game is the bad TTD (netcode issue)

    That is a possibility for a lot of dubious kills, but there are definitely cheaters about. Usually though, because Fairfight detects based on how you play (to put it simply) cheaters tend to keep a low profile. Really, it only catches the ones that go on all out sprees.

    In that sense, Fairfight is pretty useless and I have no idea why DICE insists on using it when it just doesn't do the job. DICE, you absolutely need a new anti-cheat system.
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  • How can you tell the difference between cheating and skill?
  • OP, I really don't think you should start talking about attitude.
    Need some cheese to go with that whine?
  • Russian and chinese hackers... Ok, ok.

    All nations have their IT teams causing attacks and havoc into other countries infrastructures. We are not the good ones because we never hear about our attacks. But that´s between nations and coalitions.
    After long years of gaming most gaming hacks i could recognize came from.. get a laugh... scandinavia. Sweden and denmark followed by brittain. Lots of hacks/cheats from latin america. Some crude and fast hacks from russia, usa and germany. So...
  • I've got nearly 50hrs on record and did not see a single cheater. Maybe there was one here and there but nothing obvious. I honestly think OP is just a real noob xD. Sorry
  • I've played a lot of matches with a K/D like u discribed. It's all about awareness and a functional Squad. When I play domination with my squad we normally all end up with max. 1-3 deaths cause we always revive each other and give info about where the enemies are.
  • 50% ???
    No way, sorry OP. Whilst cheating will occur as in any multi-player game, I say you have severely exaggerated there. You might as well join the discussion on
    https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/164496/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently#latest
    ......rather than creating another thread on the topic.
  • Those K/D's alone don't indicate cheating, saying that its obvious they're cheating doesn't support your case. If you believe someone is cheating then report them via origin with any supporting evidence. There is already a thread on the topic https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/164496/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently#latest
  • lets face it.. fair fight anti cheat (ie..based on ones performance stats) is never gonna work. esp if turned off/on frequently not to arouse suspicion) the old punkbuster from bf1942 where it did file checks works 100% better.
    as for cheating... one site has 100k d/ls of free aimbot. not to bad for a new game.... and one site only :-(.
  • PauIoCosta
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    edited November 2018
    After +10,000 hours playing bf, since 2005 july with 34 battlefield purchased at launch, between games and dlc, there is no skill, skill = cheat.

    Yes, you can be a novice or noob, but after years playing, you will be a good player, just it.
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  • Carbonic
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    edited November 2018
    Merged some newly created threads into this one, no reason to have this discussion split out in several threads
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  • It is true. A working team, a squad, good communicatin will help a lot. Awareness will help alot.. If fair players are on map. An esp cheater and all your awareness is cheap, your fair playing team is dead.

    Today i had full awareness, so sneaky, so much cover, pretty good random teams. As good a random team can be. And it was good enough.
    Every full minute we got ambushed from behind. Squad kill in 3 seconds...
    No awareness? There was.
    But an esp cheater can counter every move you do in ease because every move you do he can see. But you can´t see his movement untill it is to late. Game over. That is why i could kill 1 but 6 death in no time. The one i could kill was a fair player.
    Easy to see if you meet a fair player. Cheaters can stand a panzerfaust right in their face to have the famous last hitpoint. Cheaters see waht you do, when you you it and where you do it. Spotting? Fair players spot - cheaters have esp. Cheaters headshot a moving, sidestepping, jumping squad in a killstreak and 3 seconds. Fair player can´t kill this guy because the last hitpoint will never fall.

    Atm this game is broken. Only hope i have that the next update will bring some new codes and currently used cheats will have a break for a week.
    Atm i have learned that leaving a map with cheaters is the best idea. Searching for a new map with less or even no cheats is easy done and for free. Only cost is some time.
    Best games i have played so far was always without cheaters. And this rare moments showed me up how fun and good this game is.
  • At the moment without any killcam or replay function its good for the cheaters to stay undetected and so its cheater friedly as never before.

    It would be good if Dice would built in some replay function like in PUBG where you can watch the last matches from the view of any player in the match and then a report function where you can send in the replay directly.
  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Cool so you encountered a hacker? You want a medal or something? I never said there wasn't cheaters/hackers, I simply said I have yet to see one in game. And just because hes a 113-10 doesn't mean hes a hacker, I posted a video of a bomber going 117-1. So unless you link a video of an obvious cheater that score really means nothing with the amount of crazy scores bombers can get right now.

    Considering they were attacking infantry only, congrats to you.
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  • There are hacks out there. They have even demo'ed the hacks on some YT sites. On some, they haven't even edited out the player's name. He is there, headshotting left and right.

    And if you look up his stats today, and then tomorrow, you will see that he is still progressing in hours played.
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  • Phaceman
    6 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited November 2018
    ** is a serial aimbotter. How many reports does it take to trigger your attention?

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  • DigitalHype
    565 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited November 2018
    WIthout 3rd party (not RSP) servers and API driven, public blocklists the cheating problem will remain prevalent on PC platform.
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    The goal is to maximize revenue, while doing just enough to pacify the masses. Throw in some PR spin, and security theatre for good measure. The focus isn't on anti-cheat. It's always a cat-and-mouse game. To even come close they would need teams of people whom are hyper-vigilant. Why spend the money on that? Instead just put out a press-release once-in-awile with marketing drivel about how comitted they are to stopping cheaters and implement some basic measures to catch the low-hanging fruit.
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  • Usual hacks are nothing compared too all ESP users. Its even worse now without spoting. Before you could deal with them because they are **** players, now they have huge advantage and know all the time where you are.
  • Phaceman wrote: »
    ** is a serial aimbotter. How many reports does it take to trigger your attention?

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    @Phaceman naming and shaming is not allowed here in the forum. I've edited your post to conform to the forum rules.
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  • Had LVL 9 player with 120+ to 8 death ratio today.. he was so blatant! It also seems some people have 150% HP and DMG ratio too.. It's almost like they have some tweak to give them more DMG and Health??? Or are we blaming poor NETCODE again?
  • HippoZoned
    3 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited November 2018
    Some video proof of a cheater...

    Not my video I just found it

    [video removed - this is still name and shame]
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  • nicey1958
    50 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited November 2018
    HippoZoned wrote: »
    Some video proof of a cheater...

    Not my video I just found it

    [video removed - this is still name and shame]

    some will say he's probably just a v good player... rotflmao.
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    If, Following this post, Somebody decides to link video or any of the above in an attempt at naming and shaming, You will be given an infraction which will restrict your posting abilities.

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  • The removal of the kill cam is such a strange direction to take. They have catered it to the advantage of the cheaters. They have the name even appear as short as possible, before it goes away, which again is only catered towards cheaters. Such a strange and suspicious move. Tried to install it again. Had a few rounds, but you just notice how some players appear that spot cheats are all over the place. Can still be enjoyable, but at this time I still feel like this will be a short lived game for me. Which is a shame, could've been so good.
  • The removal of the kill cam is such a strange direction to take. They have catered it to the advantage of the cheaters. They have the name even appear as short as possible, before it goes away, which again is only catered towards cheaters. Such a strange and suspicious move. Tried to install it again. Had a few rounds, but you just notice how some players appear that spot cheats are all over the place. Can still be enjoyable, but at this time I still feel like this will be a short lived game for me. Which is a shame, could've been so good.

    I agree, look at the kill cam that Cod has it is superb!!
  • The removal of the kill cam is such a strange direction to take. They have catered it to the advantage of the cheaters. They have the name even appear as short as possible, before it goes away, which again is only catered towards cheaters. Such a strange and suspicious move. Tried to install it again. Had a few rounds, but you just notice how some players appear that spot cheats are all over the place. Can still be enjoyable, but at this time I still feel like this will be a short lived game for me. Which is a shame, could've been so good.

    More about obfuscating the problem vs. spending the money, time, and resources to solve it. For sure, there were inaccuracies with the old killcam that led to false interpretations. But, there are things they could have developed to help mitigate those and remove much of the confusion. How about a post-death dmg model? Option for replay cam from other players perspective, etc.

    EA made Billions in revenue and massive profits for shareholders and executives. But, development, design/creative, testing, and operations of the games.....As little as they can get away with and still compete in the market. Ongoing trend of this ever-consolidating market.
  • After 90hrs BFV game play I reported my first obvious cheater . I have to add that the netcode/server implementation of ttk,ttd, hit reg, hits being taken is so bad in BFV that it is almost impossible to know if someone is using a hack.
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  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited November 2018
    forget it
    https://tinyurl.com/y9577wne

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  • The amount i put into my computer to game just to get cheated, i went back to console online gaming for MP. I just can't stand when you know, no one should know your location, but somehow someone just comes up to you shooting a damn wall. I don't have much time in PC gaming, but it really does suck to spend money on the hardware / digital content, to just be cheated. Also what sucks the most, i wonder how many cheaters are playing ninja, Like how many just use their scripts when someone beats them in a match, or they use it only so much that no one can tell, It's those people that scare me.

    A new anti cheat should be added, but what really can a company do to ban all the cheaters and not impact the players, so i moved on. Single player games are truly amazing on PC though, Mass Effect 1, Just amazing, ( Mass Effect A on the other hand, No, NO, WHy Bio WHy! (I blame the Frostbite Engine for MEAs issues)
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  • DigitalHype wrote: »

    More about obfuscating the problem vs. spending the money, time, and resources to solve it. For sure, there were inaccuracies with the old killcam that led to false interpretations. But, there are things they could have developed to help mitigate those and remove much of the confusion. How about a post-death dmg model? Option for replay cam from other players perspective, etc.

    EA made Billions in revenue and massive profits for shareholders and executives. But, development, design/creative, testing, and operations of the games.....As little as they can get away with and still compete in the market. Ongoing trend of this ever-consolidating market.

    I think that would be a very good idea. A replay cam from other perspectives and a dmg stat chart. Sometimes you think someone one shots you when they shouldn't, but a lot of times this is another person also firing at you that you don't see. It would be nice to see when that was the case.
  • ECH0_MIRAGE wrote: »
    One of the major anticheat mechanisms up through BF4 was private servers. Real private servers, not the EA-only model that we moved to in BF1.

    There used to be a dedicated private community that took up the anticheat fight on the per-clan/per-server level. While not perfect, individual private community efforts went a VERY long way toward mitigating the effects of cheaters in the broader game community. You used to know where you could go to play where at least *someone* might listen to a reasonably-phrased cheat report.

    Now, with BF1/V, we have: (1) no private servers; (2) no real/meaningful independent stats resources; (3) no third-party or homegrown stats analysis tools; (4) no third-party or homegrown server management tools.

    The anticheat vacuum that was previously somewhat filled by private server administration is now left 100% in EA's hands, and it hasn't worked out. Now there's no refuge anywhere, and only "we take all your cheat reports seriously" platitudes.

    Just pointing this out. My opinions remain my own and aren't to be taken as representative of my own private gaming community.

    The same problem exists in star wars battlefront.

    No private servers, just the same crap we have today here on bf1/5
  • AL_CAP0NEZ wrote: »

    That’s how they want it to be. Not every cheat is the one going 100+ kills. The best cheats are the ones you never know about.

    If you don't know about them, does it really matter ?

    I've been playing online games for almost 20 years, and I'am yet to have my experience ruined by them. I even play CS, a game known to be ruined by cheaters. And even on CS, in LEM rank I very rarely come across cheaters. In my opinion people have been overreacting about cheaters for years and years. Yes there are cheaters in every PC game but it's not nearly as bad as some people claim it is.
  • Every fps shooter has cheaters, and they will always have them for as long as there is games to do it in. I find it odd that so many say that BF5 is riddled with cheaters when I have yet to see one, and many others still haven't seen one either. I think region might have something to do it to some degree i'd imagine. I play exclusively on the 30ping servers (west coast usa) and with 60hours played I still haven't seen anyone that I thought was cheating.
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  • Life2Deth
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    edited November 2018
    Not seen any cheater!!!
  • Very obvious ESP/instant head shot/aim bot cheaters on the AU servers. Went to see if it's a real thing and the first page of Google results is full of cheats and videos of them. It only takes a couple of cheaters in a game to completely ruin the experience, and it's already there. Nice game but ruined by this and the OP planes.

    What gives EA? Pull your finger out and fix this!
  • zePokar1 wrote: »

    If you don't know about them, does it really matter ?

    I've been playing online games for almost 20 years, and I'am yet to have my experience ruined by them. I even play CS, a game known to be ruined by cheaters. And even on CS, in LEM rank I very rarely come across cheaters. In my opinion people have been overreacting about cheaters for years and years. Yes there are cheaters in every PC game but it's not nearly as bad as some people claim it is.

    It matters in that it artificially inflates the ranks of the "elite" level player base and makes it extremely hard for the average player and hell on the new guys. It confuses people who might blame "netcode" and "TTD" issues when it's something simple like a damage modifier that causing the problem (yes, I know that TTD and netcode are very real issues). It matters because frustrated pissed off players are much more likely to gravitate towards those same hacks in order to compete with that artificially inflated skill base.
  • Amount of cheaters doesn’t have a direct correlation to how people feel about or perceive the cheater situation.

    If you have that extremely negative experience even if it is in 1-20 games that is a pretty big deal. Also if we know these cheaters are largely going undetected it makes people cry “hacker” more often.

    Add on top of that the slow/minor reaction to date from the developer and lack of private admins/servers. People are rightfully upset.
  • everytime i see someone go 30-2 in tdm when i look at their profile its private. odd that. report these pos's
  • it would be so much easier for everyone, if we could get ppl to record these incidents, please for the love of god, can ppl start doing that? trust me if there's loads of vids of ppl cheating, then dice would be forced to act, but until then. i mean loads, 20 to 25 would be a good start. These ppl live in the clouds, you have to repeat things to them bc they cant hear anyone. for any reason. :smile:
  • Been playing since 2142 and I'm done with it. EA you have failed your customers.
  • Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I just don't believe there are so many good recon players in Australia.

    I got respawed at the base, and then walked within 10 seconds, then I got a headshot from a sniper... Does the game currently have any anti-cheat mechinsim?

    Was a BF4 player and punkbuster + FairFight was pretty effective in that game
  • Maybe he was just camping your base?
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  • Dral13 wrote: »
    Amount of cheaters doesn’t have a direct correlation to how people feel about or perceive the cheater situation.

    If you have that extremely negative experience even if it is in 1-20 games that is a pretty big deal. Also if we know these cheaters are largely going undetected it makes people cry “hacker” more often.

    Add on top of that the slow/minor reaction to date from the developer and lack of private admins/servers. People are rightfully upset.

    People have the right to be upset as a paying customer. I just find it completely odd that you are either seeing cheaters everywhere to where every server is running rampant with them or you don't see any at all (like literally none).
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  • Although "rare" I can tell there are already cheaters, in a couple of matches I've seen many ppl really knowing where I was all the time + no recoil.
  • Honestly a good way to stop the hackers is taking the game off the premium service. Think about it. If you get caught hacking and your account gets banned you can make a new account, pay $15 and boom you’re back in with your hacks. Unless the anti-cheat bans IP address’s etc. This is on solution that could slow these issues down not that it’s extremely out of control. We as a community need to keep tossing out ideas and maybe we can help fix this problem. I’m actually enjoying the game more now then ever even though the rage gets real sometimes.
  • I wonder if since we know they don't have any anti cheat, maybe someone could develop some kind of anti hacker program that honest players could use that homes in on the player by name and no matter where he/she is on the map gets killed via a panzerfaust rocket everytime they spawn from death! Ha Ha that's something the honest players could use so we can hound these fools out of the servers. I would pay for a subscription service like that :p
  • Thats not the question. The question is: Are there any anti-cheat mechnism in Battlefield V? Punbuster? FairFight?
  • no there aren't
    there may be a program dedicated to catching cheaters but it plain doesnt work. the game is flooded with cheaters. wallhackers ignore smokes and environment. aimbotters play whole games with 150-2 without a kick or ban. sadly i bought the game via origin and cant get a refund.
  • hopefully DICE will have a resolution soon, otherwise the player base will drop really soon. (which is what they want I guess, as it will have lower sever maintainence....)
  • sheldonrong wrote: »
    Thats not the question. The question is: Are there any anti-cheat mechnism in Battlefield V? Punbuster? FairFight?

    Fairfight is in iirc.
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  • i don't like to cry cheater and haven't seen an obvious one yet but there's quite a lot of suspicious players that seem to prefire you or always know where you are. especially now spotting is very limited. does fairfight even detect esp/wallhacks ? i really can't see how it could.
  • STOPchris
    381 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited December 2018
    The game makes it pretty difficult to spot. Honestly, it should be this way. However, this also makes it pretty obvious who is cheating. In BF1, we could use the excuse that they were spotting you by hitting "Q", here this is no longer the case. The best that I have been able to do to make it easier to sport people, is to lower the gamma on my monitor to 2 from 2.2. However, this only makes it a small amount easier. You can tell the people who are cheating, because they always know where you are. It is those situations that consistently do not add up to the how the game works that makes it easy to spot a cheater. In this game it is much easier to spot them, as the game mechanics do not hide them as well.
  • while ever we have people selling these hacks we will always having people who buy them. ive rage quit today and yesturday. the cheaters turn the game into a death simulator. I really enjoyed the game until the number of people using these hacks reached a tipping point. for days now they keep pushing the game out of balance. google battlefield v aim bot and go to videos. its disappointing for the community for sure.
  • So My thread on the Asian Servers hacker plague got shut down as I think they do not see it as a problem in Asia or they are not interested in the problems plaguing the game in our part of the world. Very obviously we all spent good money into buying a game that means something to us all. I have never seen such sheer non interest from such companies aside from the usual "Report them" and also observing these hackers continue to stay weeks after, and ruin games continuedly to this day.

    When you have a plague of people everyday that shoot you blind from everywhere on the map and scoff at the supposed resilient anti-cheat system you employ, clearly DICE/EA days are numbered when you go into "denial" or fail to address that there is a problem in the first place.

    This will be the last time I believe anything that ever comes out from either company period.
  • At least 2 cheaters in my last game. Its been pretty horrible today. No recoil, always know where I am. it seems to get worse by the day.
  • Big step backwards from EA the community used to be more effective than punkbuster and fairfight put together in creating safe servers with active admins to keep cheaters in check or at least confined to DICE official servers.

    You have cut off your own nose in spite of your face by removing this aspect of the franchise because its the reason past BF titles outlived the recent ones without.
  • 40ish hrs into the game and I've only suspected maybe 2-3 players. But that's it. I saw some QQing last week about multiple hackers in "every match"(RME)so I looked at a few of the big game hacker forums and It looked to me like BFV is doing good on the anti cheat front. I saw tons of ppl complaining about instant bans using hacks in the beta and full release version. So I'm confident if ppl are hacking, they'll have a ban incoming real quick. Sometimes ppl are just that much better than you. You won't have fun if you're thinking everyone who kicks your butt every game is hacking. Plus it just makes you look like a sore loser. Reporting them or recording is maybe all you can do, right? Incessantly whining about it doesn't help the situation.
  • No Body cheats shut up pay your money and play you suck
  • Aircool_212 wrote: »
    I've just been watching a bunch of cheat video's on YouTube. Some of those hacks have a user interface which is miles better than the one in game!

    The worst thing about hacking these days is that it's incredibly easy to disguise as most of the options are scaleable. So no longer do you have a 100% accuracy or no recoil hack, you can customise it so even from a spectators point of view, it just looks like you've got decent control over your recoil and an accurate mouse hand.

    This means that a lot of hacking will go unnoticed because it can be very subtle these days. So people who say that they won't believe there's a lot of hacking until they see it are kidding themselves. You might get one or two people who whack up the hack options to max and they'll be easy to spot, but most hackers these days set up their hacks to show credible gameplay.

    Unfortunately, the hack creators will always be one step ahead of the anti-cheat software, and most of the hacks come from countries where it's impossible to take legal action against them. Also, hackers are a lot more common than people think. Game developers will tell you that hackers either don't exist or are very rare because they're not going to admit that their game is riddled with cheaters.
    Well said without getting into so much details. EA/DICE are known to sweep it under the rug for years.

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    People have the right to be upset as a paying customer. I just find it completely odd that you are either seeing cheaters everywhere to where every server is running rampant with them or you don't see any at all (like literally none).

    I’ve only reported two people since the early access. Those were just blatant.

    It is harder to tell if people are running around with ESP or being smart about the way they cheat.
  • 20 minutes ago i have seen a "player" with 160 (!!) kills. And, no he/she/ it was not a pilot or tank driver but a medic.
    Period of grace is over if this shamless freaks come in like cockroaches in the dark. Before 80 was the shame limit but now its 160... next record will be 320 ?
  • Quasar9111 wrote: »
    a lot of people are using is whats known as an ESP Overlay Cheat - its shows box frames of all players on the map with HP, so if you are wondering how you are being shot at instantly round a corner, or if you are perfectly hidden, and u get shot, this is why, nothing much gets injected, and it has a very good screenshot cleaner, and easy to turn on and off, so its virtually undetectable, DICE/EA know of the website/forum where the code is publicly downloadable and which associated DLL apps are in use, but there is not really that much they can do yet, yes frustratingly annoying

    I think they are afraid of the repurcussions. The last time they did a massive ban, relatively early in BF1 lifecycle, the retaliation kept the servers offline for a long time. Top-tier DDOS mitigation services (e.g. scrubbing 100Gb/sec+) is probably more than they are willing to spend.

  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited December 2018
    ZeuZx wrote: »

    Cool so you encountered a hacker? You want a medal or something? I never said there wasn't cheaters/hackers, I simply said I have yet to see one in game. And just because hes a 113-10 doesn't mean hes a hacker, I posted a video of a bomber going 117-1. So unless you link a video of an obvious cheater that score really means nothing with the amount of crazy scores bombers can get right now.

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  • The scum seem to come out on nights and weekends... Probably, younger crowds. Usually the demographic that has the least amount of honesty.
  • Damn, been trying to get the feel for it during the day, but mostly getting annoyed by this game now. This is, in my opinion, such a downgrade of the series. I am not just blaming, cheats, Im not sure at times when it is cheats or just poor netcode, but overall its a downgrade on so many different aspects. From poor map layouts, close to no content, to ofc cheats and netcode. I know conquest is dead in the way it was used to be played, and these other modes could be good, but I am just not getting this game to work for me. Cheats ofc being one of the biggest issues.
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  • Noob mistake, sorry :)

    nooo problemo :)

    It just saves the extra few seconds to view directly here than have to redirect to another site and then having to click back a few times.
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  • Quasar9111 wrote: »
    a lot of people are using is whats known as an ESP Overlay Cheat - its shows box frames of all players on the map with HP, so if you are wondering how you are being shot at instantly round a corner, or if you are perfectly hidden, and u get shot, this is why, nothing much gets injected, and it has a very good screenshot cleaner, and easy to turn on and off, so its virtually undetectable, DICE/EA know of the website/forum where the code is publicly downloadable and which associated DLL apps are in use, but there is not really that much they can do yet, yes frustratingly annoying

    I don`t see how there is not much that they can do yet, given that we had the same problem in BF1 for quite a long time, and there was really nothing that they did in that game either.
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  • Funny how, after 2 weeks of game release (public) and 4 weeks for early access, these cancers are still free on the battlefield...

    Did EA/dice sign a contract with cheat makers or something ?
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  • EXILE157
    174 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited December 2018

    I don`t see how there is not much that they can do yet, given that we had the same problem in BF1 for quite a long time, and there was really nothing that they did in that game either.
    Since EA/DICE "cant do anything about it" > That's the more reason why we need independent servers for the gaming community and not what EA/DICE or forcing upon us, we need Admins and Server Forums where we can expose these hackers! (Name and Shame those ****!) get them banned from specific servers within the gaming community.

    After BF4/Battlelog- EA/DICE has eliminated important details options.
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  • Even if DICE/EA can’t detect the software investing in a few employees whose job is to hunt these people down, something could be accomplished.

    Looking at statistics, spectating sketchy players and setting out some bait could catch a number of these offenders.

    Once the word gets out that more enforcement is taking place the problem should correct itself to a degree, there would be a deterrent. With a track record of allowing or being lenient in this area it just encourages cheaters.
  • Funny how, after 2 weeks of game release (public) and 4 weeks for early access, these cancers are still free on the battlefield...

    Did EA/dice sign a contract with cheat makers or something ?
    Nothing has changed and it will not, until we put a stop to it.

    Just think about this >> In every EA/DICE "Beta" release << there's already hackers in it and there's a history on that. look it up on YouTube or read articles on PC Magazine and other sites.

    Again (Hackers already waiting for the "Beta") How do they even have the information to the "Beta"???

    >> Inside Job << Someone is purposely giving out information on the side and getting well paid for that.
    Hackers spends 2,3,4,5 times the amount you spend on games, because when they get "caught" they buy another account and another and another etc...Repeat that multiple times, it does add up $$$$$$$.$$$$

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  • Been pretty lucky over on the Oceanic servers, haven't seen any blatant cheats so far.

    Although I wish DICE would hurry up and fix problems such as the TTD issue (damage stacking) and also the unintended mechanic that you're spotted on the minimap after making a kill. Fixing these two issues alone would cut down on the cheater suspicions I feel.
  • just had a game where i saw a cheater doing something different. He was just spamming c4 everywhere, never ran out, threw it like candy, it didnt even hurt him either. He just throw it at the floor and detonate it , no dmg to him at all. he finished like 91/8 and yeh just c4 all game. was kinda funny for awhile but yeh sux.
  • I don`t see how there is not much that they can do yet, given that we had the same problem in BF1 for quite a long time, and there was really nothing that they did in that game either.

    You have 114 hours played and seen numerous hackers (or at least some screenies that indicate so). I have 71 hours played, but still haven't seen a cheater, or at least anything that I thought could have been cheating. The only times I saw crazy scores (75-2 and 66 and 3) they were both bombers. Curious though, which region of servers do you play on? I play only the west coast (Portland, Oregon I think is where they are located) USA servers.
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  • I think there are even more cheaters in Europe servers than American servers
  • during the open beta several hack testers popped up. One of them was testing both ESP and aimbot using the KE7 LMG to get 100+ kills a game while multiple people spectated and recorded the person. None of them were banned through the week of testing even though these guys were even admitting openly what they were doing so it gives an idea that EA does not care.
  • my hope is that it does not trickle over into the BR
  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    You have 114 hours played and seen numerous hackers (or at least some screenies that indicate so). I have 71 hours played, but still haven't seen a cheater, or at least anything that I thought could have been cheating. The only times I saw crazy scores (75-2 and 66 and 3) they were both bombers. Curious though, which region of servers do you play on? I play only the west coast (Portland, Oregon I think is where they are located) USA servers.

    In past BF's and maybe on this one the cheaters seem to like TDM. I hardly play conquest anymore and even on TDM I see only a blatant cheat every 8-10 games or so. However, that's the blatant ones. I was in a squad with a clan that was using ESP (two of them at least, there were 3) and I called them out. I got booted from their squad and they quit the server about 5 minutes later... but not before they both racked up about a 50:1 KDR. Bunch of kids. They thought it was funny.
  • Tygranar wrote: »
    my hope is that it does not trickle over into the BR

    Lol.
  • Returned my copy via Amazon, story ends here for me....

  • I don`t see how there is not much that they can do yet, given that we had the same problem in BF1 for quite a long time, and there was really nothing that they did in that game either.

    That does not mean that there is nothing that they *can* do, but that there is nothing that they *will* do.
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  • ZeuZx wrote: »
    ZeuZx wrote: »

    You have 114 hours played and seen numerous hackers (or at least some screenies that indicate so). I have 71 hours played, but still haven't seen a cheater, or at least anything that I thought could have been cheating. The only times I saw crazy scores (75-2 and 66 and 3) they were both bombers. Curious though, which region of servers do you play on? I play only the west coast (Portland, Oregon I think is where they are located) USA servers.

    I have *plenty* of recorded video from BF1, I can send you a few choice links if you like.

    In BF1 I played on a platoon server, primarily.

    On BFV I honestly am not sure where I am playing, but I know they are USA servers.
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  • I have *plenty* of recorded video from BF1, I can send you a few choice links if you like.

    In BF1 I played on a platoon server, primarily.

    On BFV I honestly am not sure where I am playing, but I know they are USA servers.

    Would only prove what we both have been saying, that every fps game has cheaters. That's been said since the beginning lol. Just grossly an exaggeration from the posters about how many cheaters their actually are. Judging from the stats from those that call everyone a hacker every single time they die they are usually pretty new to the game, or just very bad at fps games (I mean look at their accuracy and k/d). Most of the time its just plain `ol map knowledge, then add in terrible accuracy and you get the traditional player that dies every time so he thinks the world is cheating.
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  • Wikstone
    154 posts Member BF3BF4
    edited December 2018
    One of the biggest cheatsites is down at the moment and surpise surprise... Game feels much better.
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    edited December 2018
    Wikstone wrote: »
    One of the biggest cheatsites is down at the moment and surpise surprise... Game feels much better.

    There's an angel. Get some hackers to take down the hackers. That would be nice. ofc that means taking down the developers of the cheats so these kids have no place to get them.
  • STOPchris wrote: »

    Which it really amazes me that everyone still buys these games, knowing that there will be a large amount of cheaters in them... Pretty sad really.

    That is true. I did not buy the game i'm subbed to the origin access instead. That way i enjoy many games and don't have to worry about this problem. All i have to do is stop the subscription.
  • Roll on the private servers, and then we can get back to policing for cheats.
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  • Fryseboxen wrote: »
    However in BF5 stealth is much more important. Either the amount of cheaters is the same, or the added difficulty of BF5 has enticed more people to start cheating. It's sad really, considering that the BF games are mostly casual. Cheating in a game like this is reserved for utterly pathetic individuals, in CS etc I can understand it to some degree even if it's still a **** move, but here it makes no sense.

    One thread talking about ESP on one notorious forum has a view count over twenty-six thousand.
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  • One thread talking about ESP on one notorious forum has a view count over twenty-six thousand.

    Hm, But is that member views or are we talking members and non-members?

    Also are views counted once or could it be that there really is only a few thousand that have been looking and decided against it and later viewed the thread again which the view counter sees as a new view?
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  • All I hear is "man I'm getting my butt kicked, these guys have to be cheating. I'm going to complain on the forums."

  • Hm, But is that member views or are we talking members and non-members?

    Also are views counted once or could it be that there really is only a few thousand that have been looking and decided against it and later viewed the thread again which the view counter sees as a new view?

    There are plenty of videos out there showing cheats, for a game that just came out we should not be seeing that many on YouTube.
  • I haven't seen a single hacker yet ..

    99% of time people call hacks; it's simply dying to someone better than them.
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    edited December 2018
    Dral13 wrote: »

    There are plenty of videos out there showing cheats, for a game that just came out we should not be seeing that many on YouTube.

    I've never once said there wasn't.

    I was actually replying to @Red_Label_Scotch regarding view counts which he said one notorious cheat forum has over 26,000 views.

    It's actually a legitimate question though because some forums will count the same viewer over and over if they were to click on to a thread, click off it, And later click back onto it.


    But yes, Games that are relatively new do get higher numbers of cheaters, But that does taper off after a while when they get bored, Get banned, Or when a new game releases that they can cheat on.
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  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited December 2018
    jaifro wrote: »
    I haven't seen a single hacker yet ..

    99% of time people call hacks; it's simply dying to someone better than them.

    kSLNMS8

    So, do you think that this guy, gen-odyssey is just some whining noob?

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  • Hm, But is that member views or are we talking members and non-members?

    Also are views counted once or could it be that there really is only a few thousand that have been looking and decided against it and later viewed the thread again which the view counter sees as a new view?

    I am sure that it counts repeat views. Let's assume (heh) for silliness sake that some people are viewing it on the average ten times, that would still make two thousand, six-hundred unique viewers. I am sort of looking at this like you would look at Drake's Equation, even one tenth of 26,000 is a heck of a lot.
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  • Would we consider, as suspicious numbers, a player that has, let's say 13000 headshots, and 15000 kills, to be something that Fairfight might want to flag as at least something to watch?
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  • jaifro wrote: »
    I haven't seen a single hacker yet ..

    99% of time people call hacks; it's simply dying to someone better than them.

    For someone who have 24 hours into BF4 for xbox and 27 minutes into BF1 for pc you are in no position to tell there is no cheaters in the BF series...
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  • Battlefield is full of hackers and *Nothing* is being done about them.

    The infiltrator hacker in BF1 that has been reported many times a day by many players on many channels is still in the game a couple of weeks after first being reported and playing daily with a barrage of flare gun bombardment kills game after game. This hack was 1st reported about 5 months ago where they are abusing kits that are not available on that map. Fairplight is so bad it cannot detect kills by a kit that does not exist on that map, nor can it detect the constant flow of rage hackers doing HS after HS for 200 kills a round. Hackers are laughing at DICE and they don't care to do anything about it just pretend the situation is not happening and hope it will go away whilst telling people to report so it can be quietly ignored.
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  • For someone who have 24 hours into BF4 for xbox and 27 minutes into BF1 for pc you are in no position to tell there is no cheaters in the BF series...

    I haven't seen a hacker yet, or at least a score that was just insane (I dont count bomber scores, thats just too easy).
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  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    I haven't seen a hacker yet, or at least a score that was just insane (I dont count bomber scores, thats just too easy).

    You're very lucky then. I notice some form almost every game now. And no a hacker doesn't mean some crazy xxx-0 score. A lot of hackers can be killed not paying attention. But the amount of 180 snap around insta kills has been rising for myself and the 4 friends i have that play. Last night we noticed it real bad in a server we were on. Came behind one guy and as my squad was moving up to my position i start hitting him in back. As my 3rd shot hit him he insta 180 and killed the 3 of us in view within seconds. And this has been happening a lot more lately. But all we can do right now is report which i'm not sure even does anything.
  • ZeuZx
    71 posts Member BF3BF4
    edited December 2018
    EccOMyth wrote: »
    You're very lucky then. I notice sme form almost every game now. And no a hacker doesn't mean some crazy xxx-0 score. A lot of hackers can be killed not paying attention. But the amount of 180 snap around insta kills has been rising for myself and the 4 friends i have that play. Last night we noticed it real bad in a server we were on. Came behind one guy and as my squad was moving up to my position i start hitting him in back. As my 3rd shot hit him he insta 180 and killed the 3 of us in view within seconds. And this has been happening a lot more lately. But all we can do right now is report which i'm not sure even does anything.

    Dude you have 21 hours played, and an accuracy of 14% with the Gewehr 43. Of course you are going to die if you're just shooting and not hitting anything lol. I could have very easily done the same thing if someone was shooting at me but not hitting me haha. Not trying to be rude or mean, but i'm just stating the obvious and which seems to be the norm in this topic. Seems that people that just have very bad aim, or bad combat awareness die and immediately cry hacks simply because they don't understand whats going on.

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  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Dude you have 21 hours played, and an accuracy of 14% with the Gewehr 43. Of course you are going to die if you're just shooting and not hitting anything lol. I could have very easily done the same thing if someone was shooting at me but not hitting me haha. Not trying to be rude or mean, but i'm just stating the obvious and which seems to be the norm in this topic. Seems that people that just have very bad aim, or bad combat awareness die and immediately cry hacks simply because they don't understand whats going on.

    Those stats are so inaccurate it's not funny. Says i have no hits or kills with the Frag Grenade Rifle, when i actually get multiple ones a game with it. Same with PIAT, have killed a crap load of players and tanks with it. But registers 0. And accuracy is a silly thing to look at as most of the time if you're playing to take objectives or hold them (how the game is suppose to be played) you will be trying to suppress people behind objects or in trenches to help others move up which means a lot of shots not hitting. Says me StG 44 only has 15mins played when i have been using it mainly the last 4 days and have it rank 6 in game.
  • EccOMyth wrote: »
    Those stats are so inaccurate it's not funny. Says i have no hits or kills with the Frag Grenade Rifle, when i actually get multiple ones a game with it. Same with PIAT, have killed a crap load of players and tanks with it. But registers 0. And accuracy is a silly thing to look at as most of the time if you're playing to take objectives or hold them (how the game is suppose to be played) you will be trying to suppress people behind objects or in trenches to help others move up which means a lot of shots not hitting. Says me StG 44 only has 15mins played when i have been using it mainly the last 4 days and have it rank 6 in game.

    Here you go folks, these are the people i'm exactly talking about. Point made.
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  • Doubt this thread will make it to the 100+ page thread on cheating in BF1 before Dice closed it.
    Merson316
    1 year ago
    It hasn't gone unnoticed. Like i mentioned in the post, we'll keep on working until the community is happy with the results.
  • Ive seen 3 obvious since launch and maybe two suspect. Rest have been hackusations. Thats all I can input
  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Here you go folks, these are the people i'm exactly talking about. Point made.

    Your accuracy for BF3 was around 14% and for BF4 was a whopping 12%. Why so low? I was a crap player who barely held on to a 2.0 KDR in BF3 and about 1.5 in BF4 (PS4) and had better accuracy than you and I shot at everything - even if I realistically had no chance of hitting it. You seem to have a boner for defending cheating... or are you just the forum contrarian? Yes, I don't think it's every server and every game. That's just an exaggeration and sure, terrible players always think everybody is hacking. It's still more common than it needs to be.
  • this **** is unplayable on asian servers. Every server has hackers in it
  • EccOMyth wrote: »

    Those stats are so inaccurate it's not funny. Says i have no hits or kills with the Frag Grenade Rifle, when i actually get multiple ones a game with it. Same with PIAT, have killed a crap load of players and tanks with it. But registers 0. And accuracy is a silly thing to look at as most of the time if you're playing to take objectives or hold them (how the game is suppose to be played) you will be trying to suppress people behind objects or in trenches to help others move up which means a lot of shots not hitting. Says me StG 44 only has 15mins played when i have been using it mainly the last 4 days and have it rank 6 in game.

    Put him on ignore, he likes to send nasty PMs. He is not worth it, an apologist to the point of, well...
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  • I just wrote 3 big paragraphs on this topic, like I used to do on the 2 cheats threads for BF1, and deleted it. People are cheating in BF5 just like they have in every BF game. That's just how it is.

    I'm still waiting for consoles to catch up to the abilities of a PC to support shooters properly (mnk and all that). The graphics capability will never be on par, but that doesn't matter for a MP shooter.
    Merson316
    1 year ago
    It hasn't gone unnoticed. Like i mentioned in the post, we'll keep on working until the community is happy with the results.
  • Plenty of cheating in BF5, but that's expected as Dice won't/can't do anything about it.
    I agree with MIcas. You just have to move over to Console if you're looking for a fair game. I'm also waiting for games to support the m/k as they are now officially supported by the console itself.
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  • Put him on ignore, he likes to send nasty PMs. He is not worth it, an apologist to the point of, well...

    You send me a PM first and I replied, not my fault you didn't like what you got.
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  • Micas99 wrote: »
    I just wrote 3 big paragraphs on this topic, like I used to do on the 2 cheats threads for BF1, and deleted it. People are cheating in BF5 just like they have in every BF game. That's just how it is.

    I'm still waiting for consoles to catch up to the abilities of a PC to support shooters properly (mnk and all that). The graphics capability will never be on par, but that doesn't matter for a MP shooter.

    Until they're at 120hz and have full mouse support I can't make that jump.
  • ESP hacks seem to be commonplace in BFV. Any word on DICE addressing it?
  • HiredRanger wrote: »

    Outside of jurisidiction. So they cant do that. One site I have been watching for almost a decade in various forms. It has been going forever and the brag has always been that if you control the timings (clocks) not sure how to interpret that, then there is nothing these companies can do about it. Then there are Chinese and Russian sites which are encouraged to undermine a major US company. The only thing you can do is understand or make it illegal and prosecute. These hack kiddies install a full on root kit onto their machine to install these hacks these days. They are literally botting their machine by choice, often against national and/or their own interests. The question is, why are they so tragic in the first place? I think many have no idea that they just gave up control of their entire PC and home network.

    I know a greed company like EA never would, but this is when you start region locking games until enough people in said region that want to play it complain and force local governments to do something about it.
  • I reported several players, nothing happens... I post in this forum, that Battlefield V is full of cheaters, my thread gets shut down. Youtube is full of videos with ppl using aimbot, wallhack etc. but EA does nothing to hinder this... The people I reported are still active, seems like EA will loose their business if the ban all cheaters... And in 1 or 2 minutes, this thread wil also be shut down...
  • I just had a weird experience. on devastation in the church a friendly v2 hits and my character gets knocked down. while trying to stand back up an enemy runs by like nothing happened to him and I die. why would a v2 knock me down, not kill him or affect his ability to play at that moment?
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  • ZeuZx wrote: »

    Here you go folks, these are the people i'm exactly talking about. Point made.

    i kinda have to agree with you, ive seen very few hackers so far in this game, but then again i mostly play TDM or frontline, i dont like conquest, i find it to be boring. That being said, people cry about hacking often when there is no hacks going on, i would say at least half of hacking accusation are delusional
  • I just had a weird experience. on devastation in the church a friendly v2 hits and my character gets knocked down. while trying to stand back up an enemy runs by like nothing happened to him and I die. why would a v2 knock me down, not kill him or affect his ability to play at that moment?

    He's was either outside of the blast radius or spawned in late. Pretty simple to explain.
  • If nothing is done, 3/4 of the legit player data base will start cheating too .
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  • Even with my few run in's with cheaters in the game. I'm still not seeing a large amount. Walling is prob prevalent but you can't really tell as I'm auto spotted as soon as I kill someone(I kill alot of people) so I'm a moving target.

  • I am so disappointed , cheater is everywhere

    I want to refund
  • TyroneLoyd wrote: »

    He's was either outside of the blast radius or spawned in late. Pretty simple to explain.

    It was our flag and I was in the middle of the church. He was in the blast area.

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  • Denkpause
    9 posts Member BF1
    edited December 2018
    The last 2 maps today, 30 minutes ago, i got sniper headshots from longe range through massive airport bunker walls with no way to be spotted - no aiming lane.
    Next map, arras, sniper headshots through a farm wall and a house wall at once. Was sitting inside a house away from window in a corner but away from wall to avoid a glitch, closed door for 2 minutes because i was waiting and looking at the map. After he killed me i could see the direction he came from and he had to shot the farm wall and the house wall to headshot me.. Any questions?
    Esp and wallhack the perfect mixture to get a high sniper K/D. Not even an aimbot needed...

    Fun is over. I really don´t know if i want to play on this game. Maybe i should get the free cheat pack, esp and aimbot, too? Like all others do. Balanced gameplay...
    As a fair player you get no chance anymore. Seems publisher/devs ignore the situation. It is frustrating.
  • Denkpause wrote: »
    The last 2 maps today, 30 minutes ago, i got sniper headshots from longe range through massive airport bunker walls with no way to be spotted - no aiming lane.
    Next map, arras, sniper headshots through a farm wall and a house wall at once. Was sitting inside a house away from window in a corner but away from wall to avoid a glitch, closed door for 2 minutes because i was waiting and looking at the map. After he killed me i could see the direction he came from and he had to shot the farm wall and the house wall to headshot me.. Any questions?
    Esp and wallhack the perfect mixture to get a high sniper K/D. Not even an aimbot needed...

    Fun is over. I really don´t know if i want to play on this game. Maybe i should get the free cheat pack, esp and aimbot, too? Like all others do. Balanced gameplay...
    As a fair player you get no chance anymore. Seems publisher/devs ignore the situation. It is frustrating.

    Do not even try get cheats cause you will be banned as quick as ever, lots of them on cheater sites cryout loud cause they are banned... so stay clean, it's sometimes frustrating but at end you stay clean and without ban...
  • If nothing is done, 3/4 of the legit player data base will start cheating too .

    i'd rather quit the game.
  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited December 2018
    Like this?

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  • I dont see cheaters often but ran in to 2 this evening.
  • I thought they were nerfing the ke7. Been one shot killed with that a lot since the patch. Also the bomber nerf is stupid. Seriously a timer? They should of gotten rid of the 32 bombs and make them reload only in their base. Being able to reload in the enemy spawn is stupid.
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  • I was just in a round of breakthrough, and at the first objective someone was performing the impossible with the Lewis Gun. So, I noted the server id, and came back and spectated them.
    -
    When spectate finsihed loading in, they were at about 60:3 and rapidly climbing the kills. I watched for about 2 mintues and they were up to 88:4. This person was clearly cheating with a triggerbot or aimbot. They had a Lewis Gun with a post sight (almost no zoom), and was just popping headshots right and left. Even at range and sometimes hipfire. They were barely even shooting it, too. Just tap fire, headshot, tap fire, head shot. This wasn't one of those "maybe they are just good" scenarios. I and others on the server reported them. Their ping was about 160-170ish on a US server (can't remember if east or west). They were rank 50 w/ 1d 13h playtime.
    -
    I looked up their stats. They have a high k/d of 3.24. But, not insanely high, like at the rate they were poppin those headshots. 3.24 is still possible for a good player or a k/d hound. And, the stats on the lewis gun for this player is very good, but not the 200:10 rate at which this player was tracking.
    -
    So, that means either
    -
    1) They got hacked. Or maybe hired someone to boost it.
    2) they only seldom rage cheat like that to keep the k/d inflated. <---- I bet this is it.
    3) they only recently started cheating.
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    Now, given this person proably does this enough to be reported heavily. Why are they still playing? I think we know the answer.



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  • ZeuZx
    71 posts Member BF3BF4
    edited December 2018
    Or maybe there are simply players like this that do play and stream, A LOT.

    https://www.twitch.tv/shroud/clip/PlumpKnottySkirretPupper
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  • Playing on asian servers...

    This game is lost, it's a cheaters paradise.

    Getting one shot at 300m or more
    Getting killed behind rocks
    Shooting a full magazine at an enemy and the guys runs away (having killed you with his 2 bullets first)

    Feel sorry as the game, without those low life, could be a lot of fun. But competing when you are not on the same level in no fun. Like trying to race a moto GP with a bicycle -> useless !

    EA do something !
  • Reignblazer
    10 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited December 2018
    Someone in the last game I played. Look at the score and K/D on the top right.
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  • ZeuZx wrote: »
    Or maybe there are simply players like this that do play and stream, A LOT.

    https://www.twitch.tv/shroud/clip/PlumpKnottySkirretPupper

    This is always a possibility. My old clan back in BF3 met up with rivaL gaming and even hosted a few lessons from xfactor. It was insane how good this guy was and how these teams played. However, it wasn't because they were making hipfire headshots from 100 meters with LMG's or had insane accuracy beyond what a weapon was capable. It was tactics, lane awareness, knowing the maps and every angle and how to play as a team - including baiting... one of the lessons that stuck in my head. These guys could ricochet grenades with pinpoint accuracy just to force movement to get a split second to make a headshot on a player. Back then a lot of competitive play was done on lockers - and they had every inch of that place with a code word and a specific strat to attack it.

    Look, I agree that about 75% of hacking complaints are ****. There are just some really really good players out there and sometimes it's hard to tell (especially with this crap TTD) Sometimes people just get lucky too. I just wish there was more transparency... I hate to say it, but I miss PB and it's ban lists. I fondly remember a player that used to haunt the old forums getting busted. He didn't even have an outrageous KDR... just about 4.0, but for him it was all about "legitimacy" and being able to say "git gud" on the forums. These are the kind of cheats that I hate. The actual "great" players... well, I just try to avoid them as much as I can. lol
  • can we close this thread
  • 193-12 guy in round last night

    EA and Dice have shown they dont (really) care for years. 'Hey lets remove rented servers', But when rented servers do come out, 'Hey lets remove rcon capability', 'Hey lets remove plugins and 3rd party anti cheats', 'Hey lets not allow admins to rule what they rent' becuase 1% are badmins.

    EA and Dice are pathetic.
  • ITS_BOB_GNARLY
    2190 posts Member BF3BF4BF1
    edited December 2018
    I thought they were nerfing the ke7. Been one shot killed with that a lot since the patch. Also the bomber nerf is stupid. Seriously a timer? They should of gotten rid of the 32 bombs and make them reload only in their base. Being able to reload in the enemy spawn is stupid.

    You're not being 1shot killed, its the terrible netcode. Right now there is an issue with damage stacking, so instead of receiving the hits in succession, instead it feels like you received all the hits at once. This issue probably explains a large majority of hackusations.

    Personally i haven't seen any blatant cheats. There may be wallers, but with all the spotting mechanics and the bugged death spot mechanic (spotted on the minimap when making a kill) it's hard to say.

    In my opinion, hacking is an overblown problem.
  • You're not being 1shot killed, its the terrible netcode. Right now there is an issue with damage stacking, so instead of receiving the hits in succession, instead it feels like you received all the hits at once. This issue probably explains a large majority of hackusations.

    Personally i haven't seen any blatant cheats. There may be wallers, but with all the spotting mechanics and the bugged death spot mechanic (spotted on the minimap when making a kill) it's hard to say.

    In my opinion, hacking is an overblown problem.

    Pretty much this. It's the subpar tick rate of 60hz that's the culprit of most "WHAT??!" moments. The server simply cannot keep up with the updates from server to player to enemy and back. When the BF4 servers went to 120hz (or was it 100hz? im old i cant remember exactly) it was like the server had just been touch by the dear lorb baby jesus and his always delicious taco bell hand. I am not sure why they go the cheapie route with the 60hz tick rates when clearly 100+ feels so much better.
    .
    Perhaps they will up the tick rate when they get the game fully optimized and stable? We can only hope at this point.

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  • The BF4 servers went up to 60 Hz from 30 Hz.
  • Sp3ckledJ1m wrote: »
    The BF4 servers went up to 60 Hz from 30 Hz.

    Was it 30hz to 60hz? It was so long I can't remember the number other than the change making it feel a lot better than it was. Looking it up reminded me of what I saw and why I thought 120hz.

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  • Biggest problem is that flagging them doesn't do much unless there are a lot of flags going to that player.
    DICE and EA has a pretty dicey tolerance for cheaters I think....
  • Saw the first real hacker in this game. I know a lot of people cry wolf because of TTK. But his name was something like ****hacker. So he joins a game of Fjell and starts destroying our entire team with an LMG oneshotting every player across the map through walls. When the round ends he was something like 60-1 and the end of round screen shows him by himself as the best squad.

    Usually its a misunderstanding from a noob player due to TTD, but real hackers do exist and when you see one you will know.
  • The worst thing is actually the ESP, or the spot cheat. I've noticed it more and more in the way some people just know were everyone is. They start shooting before they enter a doorway. They find you when you went to an obscured location and so on. Its really destructive to how the game is suppose to be played, with flanking and such. Aimbotters I don't spot as often, and the one-shotting I often believe is netcode. But who knows.
  • Found funny thing, one of the biggest cheatsites is in trouble getting payments. Paypall not doing it anymore.

  • You're not being 1shot killed, its the terrible netcode. Right now there is an issue with damage stacking, so instead of receiving the hits in succession, instead it feels like you received all the hits at once. This issue probably explains a large majority of hackusations.

    Personally i haven't seen any blatant cheats. There may be wallers, but with all the spotting mechanics and the bugged death spot mechanic (spotted on the minimap when making a kill) it's hard to say.

    In my opinion, hacking is an overblown problem.

    Pay-cheat-sites have bragged to be undiscovered in the Battlefield series through all years, so why is it an overblown problem?
    See what the biggest cheat publisher says on Reddit about the reason.
    "Millions of dollars."

    What are your comments about it?
  • ZeuZx
    71 posts Member BF3BF4
    edited December 2018
    Finally saw my first legit blatant hacker lol! In 258 rounds played 1 blatant hacker thus far. Round started, about 10 teammates in front of me all fall down like dominos than me. I was like whoa WTF was that, hit Tab to check the score, dude was already 23-0 within seconds of the map starting lol. I was like yeaaa time for a new server.
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  • I support the observation of many on this thread, I see the ESP/Wallhack cheat a LOT, other aiming / damage mods very infrequently. In the first few days of the game I became very frustrated with constantly being found when attempting to flank. I am not a great player and rely on stealth and flag captures to be of most value to the team. I was ever more careful about it, wondering how the heck could this be on a game with no spotting? Finally I ran a test, and confirmed to myself there is a problem. On many games on different servers, 3 or4 times I would spawn at deployment, avoid any action at all moving carefully to a well concealed spot on the edge of the map and just sit there. At least 4 out of 5 times, within a minute some guy would appear out of nowhere and kill me when he had no reason to be anywhere close. After about the tenth game where this happened I knew something was horribly wrong.
  • TenFPS
    45 posts Member BF3BF4BFHBF1
    edited December 2018
    Played about 4 hours last night - had some great games and got my **** owned on more than a few. Trying to level the STG and for some reason I'm getting outgunned and having a terrible time with mid range accuracy. I want to like this gun but I think the starter is better. Anyhow, I saw no obvious hacks - but it's TDM and the "get a kill get spotted" issue usually ends up in a 1 kill one death situation as you get insta swarmed unless you are roving in a pack.

    Anyhow, had a couple of games with a squad where one guy kept having decent scores - like 30:3 and such. No big deal but good since our squad wasn't reviving at all and I think we had about 1 medic on the entire team. Anyhow, on Narvik TDM there are a group of buildings and a typical spot for snipers and support is on the roof of the middle building, prone and peeking over at the ridges. That guy in my squad was posted up there with a LMG and just eating the other team. He never died. Nobody ever even noticed him. I thought it was odd. I spawned next to him, got immediately mowed down by someone behind us. Squad mate just kept popping off shots into the distant ridge. He got ignored by the THREE people behind us. I spawned in on him again and just stayed there prone. Got wasted again from the rear (where they can easily see you sprawled up there on that slanted snow covered roof) - he got ignored and kept on laying there spraying down range. I did this a few times... I could see him, apparently nobody on the other team could. I've never seen anything like it. Makes me feel like there is some kind of bounty on my head. rofl
  • I claim that Fairfight has exacerbated the problem of cheating. Yes, fairfight has become better at catching lumpy cheats, but at the same time teaches the same to play according to rules that Fairfight accepts, and when a cheater learns these rules, there is nothing that stops cheats.
    Fairfight is not enough, as long as it's not just about earning more money on dumb players for EA. Therefore, other games such as Rainbow Six have added Battleye as a second layer to those who learned the art of cheating "the right way"
    Fairfight is a good foundation, but it is not good enough when cheaters learned its weakness. then other solutions are needed.
  • Nice owe 10 minutes before.
    I call it the ghost tank. Every shot of my tank passed his vehicle doing no damage. First i thought its maybe a filthy netcode issue but after he started to fire at my tank i was hit and hit and hit. Only my grenades couln´d harm him because every shot went straight through his vehicle and i could see it with bare eyes. A ghost...

    The map before there was a triple squad, probably a clan team. It was not possible to kill this guys. They had the "i-eat-all-bullets" mode on. Infinity health. Lots of players of my faction killed by them and tickets decreased so fast, map lost in an easy and disgusting way. No wonder why so many players get this terrible low k/d. If you shot at this cheater or if you shout in the sky makes no difference.

    I don´t care about k/d but as a measure how bad the situation of this game is atm it is pretty useful. Every time, rare is it, i am able to play a map with few cheaters k/d increase like 8/14. Every time i enter a map with a good deal of cheats, most the time, k/d goes extremly down like 1/12. No progress possible until i cheat by myself to be part of the majority. And i refuse to do this..

    I quit. Today was my last day playing Battlefield V.
    I regret to bought this conconction of a game for PC. 80 bucks thrown out of the window.
    And i regret to have no console, i wish i would had one.

    Good luck to all fair players. For sure you will need luck...
  • Where did my post go
    ....mods?
  • EA doesn't care, they have regressed with the lack of private servers, proper admin privileges and lack of 3rd party plugin capabilities. They are a fraud. CLASS ACTION
  • Red_Label_Scotch
    1173 posts Member BF3BF1
    edited December 2018
    Duplicate.
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    Anti-cheat efforts is of HIGH priority for us. We want the battlefield to be enjoyable and as fair as possible. With every release and update we improve our anti-cheat systems to mitigate against new and existing cheat programs, bots, etc. Battlefield V will have the latest and greatest, and we will continue to dedicate resources to improving throughout Tides of War.








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